Tagged: cervical instability
evecaraMemberAugust 7, 2014 at 4:12 amPost count: 2
Hi C1/C2 folks. I promise you, if you have these issues you’ve described you should run to see a good Atlas Orthogonal doc. Saved my life after m over 15 years of chronic pain and disability and I’ve met dozens of others who have experienced the same. Worst thing that can happen is they can do nothing for you.
Evefrog37MemberAugust 7, 2014 at 5:30 pmPost count: 6
Hi Tracy, can you email me at hotmail dot com.
Sorry but no identifiers on this forum.Donald Corenman, MD, DCModeratorAugust 23, 2014 at 7:56 pmPost count: 8583
This is an area that is controversial. It is extremely rare to have injury to the occiput through C2 ligaments without major disruption to the stabilizing ligaments of the upper neck. Injury to these major ligaments should lead to catastrophic failure and spinal cord injury.
I would be very careful in “finding an expert” in this region as many of these “experts” have no research or publications and have come to their “expertise” without significant science behind their “knowledge”.
There are genuine known problems in the occiput through C2 region. Many of my patients with symptoms here have degeneration of the facets. This is easily diagnosed with MRI, CT and facet injections. It is incredibly rare that I would see ligament disruption and normally this would be due to preexisting disease processes (Marfans, Down’s, Rheumatoid arthritis) or severe neck trauma.
Dr. CorenmanPLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.pete1220MemberNovember 26, 2014 at 10:20 amPost count: 12
Im in the same boat as you where. My life is upside down because of it. Did you end up getting surgery? What was the outcome?pete1220MemberNovember 26, 2014 at 10:22 amPost count: 12
Hi, I’m in the same boat you were. Did you end up having surgery? What was the outcome? My life is upside down due to the same symptoms you hadHaloHelpMemberNovember 26, 2014 at 12:02 pmPost count: 6
I DIDN’T have the fusion surgery :) !!! I stuck with the Prolotherapy, and it got my neck to be tolerable (pain wise) and MORE STABLE!!!It went from about 9mm to 5.6 of instability where NOW my surgeon isn’t even suggesting fusion now!!!
It’s now being suggested as a standard among surgeons NOT to do the C1-C2 fusion surgery unless direct weakness is seen, narrowing of the spinal cord area and traumatic injury…even if a person is passing out from it– because the surgery is “so morbid” per my surgeon who did Payton Manning’s surgery. So I personally would suggest to people to rethink and double check ALL options before surrendering to surgery. Because once it’s done…it’s DONE!
Good luck and God bless!!!
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