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    This makes sense with existing bone removal medially creating a thinner remaining element. He described a laminotomy up to the “shoulder of the L4 pedicle”, “very partial medial facetectomy” with the facet capsule “meticulously preserved”, and a foraminotomy (not sure exactly which structure was thinned to complete foraminotomy?)

    With this said, how would a new surgeon determine whether there were enough bone left for a lateral access procedure, and if this is the only way to get to a far lateral disc, how else could it be removed if it were too dangerous to remove more bone? I would hope that it would not be a situation without any surgical options short of fusion?

    Thanks so much for the insight as this is a bit complex.

    BillL
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    Dr. Corenman:
    Thanks for the response and no problem about the delay. This lateral canal or extraforaminal area was what I feared. I believe the surgeon went in via laminotomy since he had to also access the subligamentous rostrally migrated fragments as well. And is it possible that even that intraspinal location was a bit “blind” as well? Perhaps missed fragments in that location are less likely since I presume the L5 root more likely to be compressed there and inconsistent with recurrent symptoms?

    If a gadolinium contrast MRI is done, how soon would this be accurate enough to distinguish post op changes vs compression whereby a decision to re-operate could be made if pathology seen? (Without going in too quickly yet not waiting many months).

    Finally, my surgeon has suggested before that he is a bit uncomfortable with the lateral approach discectomies in general stating less distinct landmarks and potential nerve injury etc.(I’ve seen your online lateral access videos however which look slick). Assuming your suspicion were verified and a far lateral fragment (or bulge abutting the L4 root) persists then would a lateral approach creating a second annulotomy weaken the annulus and predispose to reherniation, right sided collapse and even fusion (the latter being my great fear)? That said, I would think that a lateral approach would be best even if this requires a surgeon comfortable doing so with a minimally invasive dilator system).

    Thanks.

    BillL
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    Dr Corenman:
    Please see original question post. As an Addendum, I reviewed the pre op MRI with the radiologist further. He states that there was a pre-op EXTRAFORAMINAL broad-based protrusion as well, which he feels was abutting but not overtly compressing the L4 nerve root. Could this be enough to explain continuing symptoms, especially assuming that all subligamentous and lateral recess/foraminal fragments were cleared? And the radiologist questioned whether the surgeon could have fully reached this extraforaminal area via laminotomy and medial facetectomy….yet clinical significance of this is unclear as well as what to do from here.

    Thanks so much, and would really appreciate your expertise on this issue.

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