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  • nicodipietro
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    Dear Dr. Corenman,
    I have no words to express the joy I felt when I read for the first time about this new kind of surgery!

    I am 33 years old, male.
    In 1999, I was doing body building. For several months I made deadlifts (I was lifting 70 Kg) with straight legs, with the barrel very distant from the legs and the back totally warped like an inverted “U”.
    After some months I broke my pars at L5-S1: it was a very painful event! I couldn’t move for several days.

    I always dreaded the classical surgery… it’s very invasive!
    I always wondered if were possible just to repair the natural pars, without impairing the natural anatomy of the lower back.
    It has been told to me that pars are very tiny bones, so it will not be a “strong” fix.
    But I always thought:
    “OK it’s not strong as the fusion is, but it’s anyway better than two broken pars!!!”.

    Finally I read about your technique: it’s exactly what I was hoping for!
    I know my lower back will worsen because of the broken pars… so I’d like to fix them without fusion, to avoid a further progression of the slippage.

    I can’t live!
    I can do nothing.
    I can’t work (except for office/desk works): I can’t stand for long time, can’t drive or sit in a vehicle for long time. I can’t bring anything with me, a little backpack of 2-3 kg at the most.

    Now I have a bilateral isthmic spondilolysthesis. The slippage is 14 mm.
    Protrusion at L5-S1 and L4-L5.

    Is it possible for me to get a surgical repair of the pars?

    Thanks a lot.
    Nicola.

    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    The pars repair has to be performed with an intact disc and no slippage. Once the disc is degenerative or the vertebra has slipped out of normal alignment, unfortunately the pars repair will not work.

    Dead lifts and cleans are very tough on the lower back and are probably the single most injurious activity that one can do to the lower back.

    Do not fret however as fusion in this case is generally highly effective. The recovery period is about the same and the results seem to be equivalent. I like to say that a one level fusion of L5-S1 is compatible with competitive athletic activity.

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
    nicodipietro
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    Thanks so much Dr. Corenman, for your kind reply and advices.
    I believe the fusion is effective, much more because a so good doctor like you is telling me.
    Reading that after the fusion even a competitive activity can be achieved makes me happy!

    But I am not scared about the effectiveness of the fusion.
    I am scared about possible unforeseen accidents… because it is a more invasive operation (I was anyway scared for the Pars repair, imagine for the fusion!).

    Future is always uncertain… in case of any unforeseen problem for the surgery… in case my pains will increase or my problems will increase… I will really get desperate!
    I am tired of my pains and limitations.
    In case of an increase… I don’t want even to imagine…

    I should claim and demand to a surgeon a 100% of probability that nothing will go wrong… but this is impossible!
    So I prefer avoid it.

    Thanks anyway…
    I hope in future technology will be able to fix the pars fixing the discs too.

    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    All surgery is not 100% effective including pars repairs. In fact I think that fusion in an older individual (above 18 years of age) is a more predictable surgery than pars repair success.

    Surgery is not indicated unless you cannot tolerate the symptoms, the slip is progressive or there is motor strength deficit. If you can live with the pain and the other two conditions are not present, then you don’t need surgery.

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
    nicodipietro
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    OK thanks again.
    It’s more clear now.

    Talking only about the pain, I can still live with them (except in few acute episodes).

    But about motor strength deficit: I have a huge deficit. I can lift almost nothing! Or do long travels… or drive for several hours… or stand for more than 30 minutes without walking… and so on.

    But I am too scared by the fusion. And even if I could get operated for pars repair, if it was less predictable than fusion, I were even more scared!

    Thanks again.

    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    Based upon your restrictions, you are a candidate for surgery. I can understand your fears and there are some patients who would rather live with the pain and restrictions than undergo surgery due to this fear. I think that the more you research this topic and the worse your symptoms become, you will probably find yourself in someone’s office for a consultation eventually.

    Most patients who display your type of fear in my office and have surgery many months (or years) down the road almost always state that they wish they had the surgery earlier.

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
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