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  • texasspondy
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    Bitmerkle, have you read the literature on Dr. Corenman’s site, it’s very useful info on spondy.
    I’m not answering for Dr. Corenman by any means, but I also have l5 pars fracture, bilateral. My fracture is also very old, since I’m 42 now and it probably happened around 15 years old I believe. The bottom line is, is somewhat healed itself over the years by scarring up. So you and I have pannus or scar/bony tissue that is holding that lower pars joint together.
    You can get it fixed now, with surgery, more than likely a TLIF, fusion. That is my option too. My pain is from muscle fatigue, 24/7 the low back muscles spasm from trying to hold that joint together. I work out and try to keep the low back strong without overdoing it but, honestly anything much more than sedentiary lifestyle will overwork the low back. I’m trying to deal with it as long as I can before I give in to surgery, due to the task that surgery will impose on ones personal life, job, finances, etc.
    I have changed my profession from a physically demanding mechanic job to an office job, as well as modifying my habits, like bending over, I bend down, etc.

    I hope this helps some and you can get some relief. The shots, did nothing for me, corisone, epidurals, nothing. Trigger point injections helped calm the muscles down but that’s just a temporary bandaid, at least in my case.

    texasspondy
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    Jaime, something you might consider. If or when you have exhausted other sources as local doctors or treatments is, that Dr. Corenman, sees patients from all over the world. An unhealthy back is a life of pain and misery as you are well knowledged by now on this subject.

    I don’t work for Dr. Corenman, or get paid, or on his staff, but I too have spondy of the l5 level. It has changed my life the last ten years and drastically the last 15 months. So much research I have done on this matter that I actually flew a couple hours and drove a couple more hours to have a consultation with Dr. Corenman. No it wasn’t as convenient as a Spine surgeon across town but, you do have options. When my life will allow for me to take some time out to fix my back, Dr. Corenman’s hands will be the ones to do it.

    texasspondy
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    “I have been denied fusin by 3 different surgens. and also the city IME stated Im not a candidate for surgury and he suggests that the city retire me from full duty?”

    This part just makes me scratch my head in disbelief. As I recall salve97, you are on a workman’s comp case. It’s contradictory, kind of like “There’s nothing wrong with your car (black smoke pouring out the back), but I would suggest you start taking the bus….

    I have a co worker, I just spoke with yesterday, has l4/l5 herniation problems and he’s on workman’s comp. To make a long story short, things are moving at a snails pace and he’s got one surgeon to choose from, that’s it, take it or leave it. When it comes to the spine, I want the best of the best working with me, not restrictions/limitations on what care I can get.

    Anyway, following the thread, and wish you much success salve97 with your treatment plan….

    texasspondy
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    Dr. Corenman,

    First, I’d like to say (while it’s fresh in my mind), it was an absolute pleasure to meet you during my appointment 10/16/2012. Your knowledge and personality were just as I figured, second to none. Your staff was, very nice and quite helpful. Your PA, (sorry don’t remember his name), was also very knowledgeable and I enjoyed meeting with him, and of course the surrounding view is a narcotic itself.

    I knew there would be other questions after I left your office. With my Mri and xrays, do you think it is of any value to persue what my PMS had wanted to do next, a nerve block, or RF? I gathered from our meeting that my discomfort is coming from the pars fracture themselves, possibly a hair from the slight l4-l5 bulge. So I’m guessing nerve endings in the pannus are what’s actually behind the discomfort and nerve block won’t do anything to alleviate that?

    Just thought I’d see if you thought that would be of any use or if I should just maintain for now (in my new office job), until I have the procedure done by you.

    Thanks again, (The aircraft Mechanic)

    texasspondy
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    My pain for the last 24 years has been 0-3 on a scale. Very, very tolerable, and therefore had no impact on my activities or lifestyle. Tweleve months ago is when it went to about an 8, I could not sleep, get comfortable without pain. I’ve managed to get it back down to 2-5. If I do too much (Walking, lifting, work, living), it goes to a 5 for a week, then rest, muscle relaxers, heat, etc, bring it back down to a 2.

    I’ve only taken AI for the last 12 months, and I hate taking anything other than vitamins. I get a full workup of bloodwork 2x yearly for health and also to check liver/kidney levels due to the AI. I’m dilagent about taking them with food, and lots of water. As of so far no issues or problems with bloodwork, however, I don’t believe it’s in my best interest to take them on a daily basis forever. Though I only take mobic 15mg, which to my understanding is not real potent. My job will not allow narcotics, and honestly I enjoy being in control of my mental thoughts so I’d rather not take themn to dull the pain anyway.

    Depression, as I mentioned above I hate to take any pill that is not good or healthy for me. So I do take St. Johns Wart, which is suppose to help with depression. It’s a healthy approach to working with it. Honestly, I try to keep myself busy, I feel depression has it’s strongest impact when one is sedentary for too long. Believe me between a recent divorce, sale of the home I loved, downsizing to an apartment, I’ve had my work cut out for me, ha.

    As to Dr. Corenman, I’ve seen one nuerosurgeon locally, and they say it’s very wise to get a second opinion. Dr. Corenman will be my second opinion, when I have the opportunity to consult with him. But out of respect for Dr. Corenman, if I have surgery under his care, I will one of the Testimonials on his site or Patient Stories, not on his forum, that would be a small price to pay for restoring my life, :)

    I can understand your son’s feelings, especially at his age. I think a fusion is something that if you have compramised the disk, or the nerve, the question is easy to answer. But if you have not, and at your son’s age, probably hasn’t, it’s much more difficult to give the green light for a fusion, that is just my opinion of having this procedure done. Let’s face it, your son has 20 years of living to do catch up to me, and in those 20 years, I’ve jumped out of airplanes, water ski, snow ski, moved myself and others many times, and a host of other things. Now, half of those things, I wouldn’t do ever again, though another 15-20 years from now it would be an even easier question for me to answer.

    texasspondy
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    My injury, I’m guessing happened about 25 years ago. I worked at a grocery store at the time, and was in the stock room getting a bail of bags (about 50 pounds of paper bags sandwhiched together). Lifting them up high from overhead and stepping backwards, when I lost my footing and starting falling backwards, hyperextending I think it’s called my back backwards. Went to doctor, they took an xray, and gave me some probably antiinflammatory and said I had no problem. I swear to this day, that’s when I fractured my L5 pars. But, I seemed to be fine after a couple weeks.

    When I turned 30, my left leg was going numb, saw a chiropractor, and he did several adjustments, got the numbness out. I’ve spent the last 10 years since, just going to a chiro once in a while for maintenance. Last year, something happened. I think from what I’ve gathered, I tore the pannus (scar/bony) tissue from the fracture.

    Since then, I have maintained a flat back approach to not retear/aggrivate that area, tried to avoid heavy, heavy lifting of objects, which is difficult since my job is physical. I stretch my hamstrings/front flexors daily, do some minor core work for low back and abs. I take a antiinflammatory daily, as well as a muscle relaxer at night a few times a week because the muscles get wadded up in knots from trying to hold the spine together.

    I have developed a high tolerance for pain, so I guess 3-5 on my scale. That allows me to work, and pretty much get done what I need to, however my hobby’s, social life, quality of life, have just about all dwindled away, for fear of more pain, further degridation of the site. Not as young as your son but still pretty young at 41, and the only fix is a fusion for me. Thanks for asking and I don’t mean to deter from your thread here but you can take some of my post and maybe apply it to your sons situation. Honestly since last year, my led heating pad is about my best friend, it helps relax the muscles .

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