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The MIS surgeons have told me that the central incision of 4-6 inches strips muscles off bone.
How would two arthroscopic incisions through a tube on either side of spine cause muscle stripping ? Perhaps this only applies to MIS TLIF without posterolateral fusion.
I have honestly looked high and low in my area. Any surgeon that does open TLIF makes a 4-6 inch incision to get wide enough for posterolateral fusion and pedicle placement.
They say the difference between 2 inch incision and 5-6 inch incision really has no factor long term; it just effect the length of the recovery time, which could end up being a full year.
If you know of anyone in the Northeast that has similar method to your own please let me know. I need to stay close to home for this surgery unfortunately.
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Having a MIS TLIF with smaller retractable cage and no posterolateral fusion doesn’t sound like a good risk to take for the first surgery. Some MIS surgeons will use similar boomerang cage as you and are able to do posterolateral fusion. The surgeon I am speaking to does not.
When surgeons “sell” this MIS technique they are comparing it to the typical 4-6 inch incision and muscle stripping that goes along with open TLIF. The selling point is no muscle stripping, less pain, faster recovery and they have tracked loss of blood.
Most spine surgeons do not operate through a small incision like yourself for open TLIF. As a matter of fact, none of them do!
You are the best ! Thank you.
I believe there is a lack of bone for posterlateral fusion with MIS TLIF because surgeon is not removing the facet joints as in the open TLIF. The surgeon jsut removes the pars fractures on either side.
Does this sound accurate ?
IF you read sperryguy on your forum he had non fusion for the same reason. No gutter fusion and retractable cage was used. Kind of a stupid way to do the surgery in my opinion, Why take the risk?
In any event, when you start questioning details of the surgery like this with a surgeon they generally get angry and try to get rid of you. I have found that spine surgeons do not like to be told how to do the surgery. Even the most reputable.
Your method of open TLIF is the most conservative and logical that I have found. I have found couple other surgeons that do the same and they have great results.
Thank you.
I’m not too enthused with not having a posterolateral fusion.
1.) You only do posterolateral fusion on non tlif side correct? Do you use BMP ?
2.) What are your thoughts on retractable boomerang cage ?
I was just reading about sperry guy’s non fusion story on here regarding his non fusion with MIS TLIF using retractable cage. Doesn’t sound like it is worth taking the risk.
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