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  • Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    First, you have really taken the bull by the horns to do research on this disorder and you should be commended. It is difficult to fend through all of the information on the internet as some of it is incorrect at best.

    You are correct in that sacroiliac syndrome (SIJD) can be associated with multilevel lumbar fusion (greater than two levels). Iliac crest bone graft taken during spine surgery is highly correlated with SIJD. Thankfully, most patients no longer need that graft.

    I disagree with leg length discrepancy as a cause as well as age as SIJD is much less common as we get older (the joint stiffens with age which reduces the chance of pain).

    You have two significant risk factors for SIJD, multilevel lumbar fusion and especially prior iliac crest bone graft. Most SIJD cases I have seen are unilateral but there are occasional bilateral cases I have seen. Inflammatory disorders have to be ruled out in any patient with SIJD as cases of psoriatic arthritis, inflammatory bowel disease, ankylosing spondilitis, and Reiter’s syndrome can cause SIJD.

    SIJD typically do not refer pain to the groin. Groin pain with SI pain leads me more toward hip disorders and radiculopathy. I am not stating that groin pain fully rules out SIJD but puts that diagnosis further down on the differential list. Also, SIJD pain typically will not wake you up but is mechanical in nature (pain with standing and walking as well as transition pain- pain with changing positions- sitting to standing).

    Mechanical tests to diagnose SIJD are notoriously unreliable. That is, many different disorders will be aggravated by these maneuvers. The one most specific maneuver is the Gaenslen’s test and that is still a non-specific test.

    I do believe that the best test to diagnose SIJD is the intra-articular injection (the joint is both fibrous and capsular). This is not a 100% test in that even patients with radiculopathy can have relief with this injection but that is a more unusual finding. This injection can be performed in the lateral decubitis position (lying on your side) but more standard is the prone position. Yes, a short term hypnotic (Versed) can be used for the injection but the relief of pain in the short term (three hours) is the most important information that needs to be collected (see pain diary). If you are too sedated and do not try to reproduce the symptoms during the first three hours, the diagnostic value is lost.

    Treatment of SIJD has three potential therapies. One is prolotherapy. Injection of a sclerosing agent into the joint can cause fibrosis and pain relief. There are complications associated with this therapy. The second is rhizolysis. This therapy attempts to “kill” the nerves that supply the joint with pain fibers. The last therapy is surgical fusion of the joint. This is the “last resort” and in very good hands, has a 70% satisfaction rate.

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    I do not have any issues with my patients having chiropractic adjustments after a neck fusion that has become solid (as long as there are no other areas that demonstrate instability).

    Numbness in the ulnar side of the hand could originate from new or residual cervical radiculopathy, thoracic outlet syndrome, ulnar nerve compression at the cubital tunnel (elbow) or compression at the tunnel of Guyon (wrist). A physical examination and occasionally an EMG test can determine this source of numbness.

    Malalignment of the neck (torticollis) can be caused by scoliosis in the thoracic spine, antalgia (painful posturing), asymmetric degeneration of the cervical discs or malalignment from surgery. An X-ray and a physical examination will uncover the source of this problem.

    Pain in the neck can be caused by the discs, facets and occasionally nerves. Many of my patients can get adjustments after ACDF surgery but that is determined on a case by case basis and it also depends upon the skill of the chiropractor.

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    in reply to: MRI and diagnosis #7053

    Your pain into the arms, left greater than right that is a dull ache with sharp pain components is consistent with radiculopathy (nerve root compression). This pain can be associated with a disc herniation at C6-7. Since you have had the pain for some time (three MRIs normally mean at least six months), you could be a candidate for a selective nerve root block (SNRB- see website).

    The nerve block would be good for two purposes. One is that temporary relief for 2-3 hours would confirm that the herniation is the cause of your pain (see pain diary on the website). The second is that the steroid included in the injection can reduce pain and inflammation, sometimes for a long period of time.

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    in reply to: now what? #7050

    I assume that you have already undergone an anterior fusion in the lower back which has failed. There are some of these fusions that even if they have failed, will not cause significant symptoms but many will cause symptoms.

    If your symptoms originate from a failed anterior lumbar fusion, then your family doctor is correct and a posterior fusion will generally help to relieve symptoms. If there is residual nerve root compression, the posterior approach is necessary to decompress the nerves as well and lend to a solid fusion.

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    in reply to: L5-S1 Back Pain #7049

    Lower back pain typically originates from degenerative disc or facet disease. Buttocks and posterior thigh pain typically originates from nerve root compression. Hip and groin pain can originate from the hip joint or from compression of higher nerves in the lumbar spine (L1-3).

    You have isolated disc resorption at L5-S1 with foraminal stenosis (see website). This can cause generalized lower back pain and/or leg pain with standing and walking. The discs at L4-5 and L3-4 are slightly degenerative. These discs can cause mild-moderate lower back pain. Your L2-3 far lateral disc hernation on the right can compress the L2 nerve which can cause right sided hip and anterior thigh pain. The others above this level are not that important to your symptoms.

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    Cervical stenosis (narrowing of the central canal which compresses the spinal cord) causes a condition called myelopathy. Myelopathy does not include neck pain as a symptom by itself as the spinal cord does not have any pain nerve ending in its substance.

    Neck pain is normally generated by the discs, facets and nerves but not by compression of the cord. You report “head pain” which I think you mean back of the skull headaches. If that is the case, this type of pain is typically generated by the facets at C2-3 and C3-4 (rarely by the C1-2 facets). If you have had a fusion of the C3-4 level and it is solid (lack of fusion can also cause these symptoms), then the base of skull pain could be from C2-3. Facet blocks (see website) can help to diagnose this condition.

    Shoulder pain radiating into the left arm sound to be a radiculopathy (see website- compression of a nerve root). If the pain radiates down below your elbow, that could originate from the C6 or C7 nerves. If the pain does not radiate below the elbow, then the C5 nerve could be involved as well as C6 or C7.

    Torticollis, I assume you to mean that you have neck pain that stiffens your neck. If this is the case, this neck pain can originate from degenerative disc disease or facet disease in the lower portion of your neck (assuming that your fusion of C3-5 is solid). A new MRI and physical examination can go a long way to help sort out your disorder.

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
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