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#7292Topic: New MRI and X-Rays in forum BACK PAIN |
Brief History:
Started having “dull” back pain in 2003 at the age of 24. In 2006 it stated getting worse and I was treated very unprofessional by doctors that I visited. Fast forward to 2010, an MRI in Feburary showed a broad-based herniation that have the S1 nerve roots on both side pinched. Underwent a Discetomy in March 2010. Before having surgery I had done multiple injections, PT, Medication, etc. Anything ever offered to me, I did.After the surgery I was as close to pain as I had ever been in 7 years but after 4 months my pain came back and increasing got worse over the past 2 years. Since my surgery I have had 15 transformainal bilateral injections( 5 series of 3 injections) so actually 30 injections, PT again and exercise over the past 2.5 yrs. I’m currently taking Oxycontin 20mg every 12hrs and Percocet 10/325 4 times per day PRN.
X-Ray Report:
L5-S1 degenerative space narrowing
Grade 1 retrolisthesis of L5-S1 in the supine position.MRI Report
1.) Mild epidural fibrosis, mild remaining disc bulge without recurrent herniation. 70% disc dessication at L5-S1
2.) Note is made however of increasing type 1 Modic change at the disc level which has been reported in the setting of instability and flexion/extension views may be useful.NOTE: The report does report the previous surgery changes to the Lamina and Disc due to the surgery in 2010.
My surgery is well-known in this region for neurosurgery and he told me before I had the first surgery that there would be good chance I would need further surgery in the future and that “I would probably become disabled from this and that’s when we would talk about other surgery options.” On Oct 15th I seen his nurse pract and she ordered the X-rays and MRI.
Question is- Am I gonna need a fusion at L5-S1 sometime in the future? Symptoms are extreme back pain, left leg “Shock” with certain movements, and a stabbing pain just to the left of my scare when I bend left laterally.
Thanks for any help.
Chris
Knoxville, TN 33yo#7288Topic: fusion pain in forum GENERAL |in 2002 i had my first spinal fusion in L3/4. Eight years later i again suffered acute back pain. In novermber 2011 after extensive examinations i underwent a further fusion on L5. The acute back pain still remained thefore again after further investigations it what decided to carry out a refusion from L5 to S1 that was in january 2012. I have since suffered immense acute back pain in the lower area of my back and sciatic nerve pain. Can you please advice
#7274 In reply to: help with understanding my MRI |You have congenital stenosis (narrowing of the spinal canal from “birth”). On top of that, you have some degenerative changes of the discs. This causes further narrowing of the canal and cord compression. The terms used by the radiologist are moderate to severe stenosis. This is concerning for two reasons.
The first is the potential for spinal cord injury. The spinal canal in the neck narrows with bending the head backwards (extension). A fall onto the front of the head can cause this extension motion vector. This can lead to a central cord injury (see website for further information). If you participate in sports that can put your neck in jeopardy, you should curtail these sports (mtn biking, horseback riding, water and snow skiing, wrestling among others).
The other potential problem that could occur on a chronic basis is myelopathy, the dysfunction of the spinal cord from continued compression. See the website for symptoms of myelopathy.
It is unusual for a 32 year old to have this significant amount of stenosis. The neck pain that you complain of is not from cord compression as the cord compression is generally painless (has no pain receptors). Most likely, the neck pain originates from the degenerative changes of the discs or facets. The arm pain (down to the pinky and ring fingers) is most likely from nerve root compression in the foramen (see website).
It may be in your best interest to gain a second opinion. Remember however that modifiers (mild, moderate, severe) are in the eye of the beholder and the radiologist interpretation may be different than the spine surgeon.
Dr. Corenman
PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.#7273 In reply to: Abdominal distension after spinal fusion surgery |You had an anterior approach to the spine. An incision on the left requires cutting some abdominal muscles and these muscles will not heal and function as before the surgery. This abdominal wall weakness has two separate consequences.
One is that the opposite side muscle will continue to pull with regular strength and the surgical side muscles will have less “pull” (strength is diminished by the incision). This imbalance will pull the midline off center (as marked by the umbilicus or navel).
The second consequence is that the abdominal wall on that side will bulge somewhat with the complaint of “bloating”.
“Core” therapy work to try and rebalance the abdominal wall may yield some symptom relief. Make sure you have a consult with the original general surgeon who made the initial incision and approach to make sure there is nothing wrong (abdominal wall hernia).
Dr. Corenman
PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.#7272Topic: Abdominal distension after spinal fusion surgery in forum GENERAL |Hello All!
I had a spinal fusion surgery about two months ago after an accidental fall that fractured my L1 vertebra. The surgery involved making a cut on my left side just below the rib cage. Things have been going good so far pain-wise but I am puzzled by the bloating on the left side of my abdomen. The distention is such that my navel is offset by an inch or two to the right.
Can anybody please tell me why this bulge in my left abdomen has occurred…will it ever go away….what should I do to make it go away? i am a 29 year old healthy male and I generally do not have much fat on my belly. I also used to be able to breathe in deeply and pull in my stomach doing thus….but now after the surgery I cannot. This distention is very uncomfortable and gives me a very ‘tight and stretched’ feeling in my abdomen.Thanks in advance for the replies and advice.
RmorePost laminectomy syndrome is a catch-all term for failure of surgery to relieve pain. An open laminectomy with a large incision does not necessarily mean that the surgery was done improperly but that the surgeon is probably from the “old school” where the philosophy was “incisions heal side by side” and it did not matter how long the incision was.
A full laminectomy does not generally create instability of the spine. The spinous process is removed but the facets are generally left intact which are the main stabilizing processes (other than the disc). A microdiscectomy is a much “smaller” surgery with only a very small portion of the lamina removed (laminotomy) and the approach is from only one side. The laminectomy is performed from both sides.
Your spine could be unstable but that term is used for a number of different pathologies. True instability is the inability of the spine to maintain normal anatomical relationships with forces that cause shear, torsion and flexion/extension.
Pain generation could be from instability, foraminal stenosis, lateral recess stenosis, degenerative disc disease, isolated disc resorption, or chronic radiculopathy. See the website for description of each.
Spinal fusion- if needed, might be your answer but a thorough workup needs to be performed to determine the cause of your pain. As to complications of fusion, look to the website for “complications” for a good description.
Dr. Corenman
PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books. -
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