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    Dr.Corenman

    First many thanks from the UK for your great site and the advice already provided to many of us who suffer spinal issues.
    Could you please see included.Many thanks in advance.
    Oct 14/ ACDF C5 C6/ C6 C7 no plate or hardware introvertebral prosthesis only.
    Treatment for cord compression Myelopathy.
    3 mths review some improvement strength in hands improved and walking, but pronounced pain right dorsus making gripping painful and difficult.
    Recommendation physio and 5 days Vallium.

    No further action or review at 6 mths as was lost in the system which happens with the NHS.
    Managed to get a further review December 15 results as below.
    During this year increase myelopathy in both hands and disturbed gait and heavy legs making me reduced my work by 50%
    Surgery site healed well no extreme pain due to scar or swallowing problems healed very well.
    But intense continuing pain in the left trap area 24/7 making neck turning slow and difficult.
    Movement now at 80-90% but increased pain when extending neck and full rotation.

    MRI result Dec 15

    Two level ACDF C5 C6 /C6 C7 No significant improvement to rule out residual compression.
    Findings: The vertebral canal dimensions at these levels have improved; although moderate canal narrowing with cord flattening persists at lower level. A more conspicuous rim of CSF of signal is shown surrounding the cord.
    On the axial imaging there is a suspicion of signal cord alteration at C6/C7, which predates the surgery.
    The left C5 C6 C7 neural exit foramina remain severely narrowed with less marked osteophytic narrowing demonstrated left C8 and right C5 foramina.
    At C4/5 there is mild osteophytic vertebral canal narrowing The vertebral alignment and bone marrow signal are preserved.
    Non compressive disc bulges are shown in the thoracic spine.

    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    The surgery at C5-7 was warranted and did decompress the cord somewhat but there is still residual cord compression (“moderate canal narrowing with cord flattening persists at lower level”). The better news is that there seems to be some CSF now around the cord where there was none before (“A more conspicuous rim of CSF of signal is shown surrounding the cord”). This is somewhat confusing as if there is more CSF around the cord, the “flattening” should not be present.

    You did have a cord injury due to the chronic compression (“On the axial imaging there is a suspicion of signal cord alteration at C6/C7, which predates the surgery”). This might help to indicate why the myelopathy has progressed but normally after surgery-myelopathy improves, so this is somewhat confusing also.

    You still have significant foraminal compression (the area where the nerve root exits the spinal canal), especially at C5-7 on the left (“the left C5 C6 C7 neural exit foramina remain severely narrowed”) which would explain your continued left shoulder pain (“intense continuing pain in the left trap area 24/7 making neck turning slow and difficult”).

    I hope the NHS allows second opinions as I think you need a new set of eyes to assess you and help you with the remaining pathology that was not addressed at the first surgery. Find a surgeon who is meticulous, really wants to help his or her patients and won’t take no for an answer.

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
    corrochan
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    Dr. Corenman

    I am so grateful for your quick response, I was beginning to question whether I am imagining the pain I am suffering.

    As background I am a male 55yr old who was previously a Rugby and Judo player,but know I feel constantly drained. I take from your reply that the procedure carried out was not definitive and that there are area yet to be addressed.
    By just stating the chord is clear is not a through appreciation of my condition and that the pain I am know suffering has a correlation. With the NHS here in the UK you are in the main dependant on a singular consultation/consultant.
    As I understand the position I have a congenitally narrow Spinal canal,my consultant has grudgingly allowed a nerve conduction test,which I am not sure what benefit this will be and a further lower MRI to see if Thoracic or Lumber issues are the reasoning for my pain.Nothing was mentioned regarding that in 2014 facet joint and ligamentum flavum hypertrophy with a loss of cervical lordosis.
    Would I be right to when next I get a chance to see my consultant normally months later, insist that my cervical neck has not been definitively treated and that there still exists procedure (not sure which) to improve my outcome
    Once again may express my thanks for your kindness and professional expertise in explaining something I had hoped would have been passed on to me by my consultant,who is new to my case, I have had the luck,at least I thought I was to be treated in a dedicated Neurological Hospital here in London. The average waiting times here in the UK are 3-4mths to see a Consultant 6-12 weeks to have an MRI.
    Best of luck to all fellow sufferers,Society still underestimates how debilitating spinal issue can be.

    I hope this will be helpful for other members and visitors of your very helpful and informative forum.

    Thank you once again.

    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    The EMG will not be helpful for cord injury (myelopathy) but might shed some light on your shoulder and arm pain although a precise physical examination will yield much more information than an EMG will.

    Also, you should make sure that you have a solid fusion and have not developed a pseudoarthrosis (lack of fusion) of the surgical levels. This can be diagnosed sometimes with an in-office X-ray (including flexion/extension) and if any questions, a CT scan of the neck.

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
    corrochan
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    Many thanks I shall certainly try to get a CT scan, and hopefully convince this Consultant that I still have unresolved issues.

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