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  • ollie1947
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    Fell hard on l. back and buttocks 10 months ago. Black spread across entire l. back. Swelling like 3 softballs; one above sacrum; 1 in each buttock. Felt pretty good up to Aug., except for slight persistent swelling above sacrum and what feels like a deep lump in each lower buttock. Went out to weed-wack in mid August; one hour later, bad pain in lower back and pins and needles running down back of thighs to ankles. Consult with ortho doc. Decision to have epidurals in S1. These did hardly anything(first two), Third series shifted to SI joints…same no effect. @ weeks ago has RF ablation to medial nerves in L4 and L5. So far, no positive results. MRI in May and November both reveal no areas of concern, according to two orthopedists. They do not know what is causing the pain.
    This is the abbreviated version. I am not incapacitated to a large degree, except for the activities that I enjoy: skiing, bicycling, and tennis. It’s difficult to hear specialists pronounce their ignorance of why there is pain or what is causing it. I don’t feel that they have gone the extra mile to research, consult, etc. for any “outside the box” solutions. The second orthopedist spine guy suggested that the swellings/pain over sacrum and deep in each lower buttock might be severe nerve damage, and could take up to 2 years to heal. If I could at least know that with some surety, I could have some hope.

    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    Your continued pain could be from muscle or soft tissue injury due to the large hematoma. I will assume there are no remaining fluid filled masses in the subcutaneous tissues based upon the new MRI in November. Look at the muscle signal in the paravertebrals and the signal in the posterior subcutaneous tissues. If the signals are normal on each side, this is not a soft tissue injury in these structures.

    You can develop insertional tendonosis (essentially “tennis elbow” of the back or buttocks) from this injury. The insertion of the tendon into the bone will be bright white, especially with the STIR sequence.

    Occasionally, “trigger points” or painful points found by palpation only (won’t show up on MRI) will cause pain. Injection of steroid with anesthetic will give both temporary as well as long term relief.

    The SI joint rarely causes pain (3-6%) and you should not have had RF ablations without facet blocks first as it is unlikely that the facets were causing pain and there was no proof (facet blocks) that would have driven the RF procedure.

    Dr. Corenman

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    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
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