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  • Holmin
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    Hello Dr. Corenman:
    My son 18years has been diagnosed with a bilateral pars interarticularis fracture in L5. We have consulted some local surgeons and they didn’t recommended any kind of surgery, but the lower back, right leg, buttock pain (with numbness in foot sole) persisted, after therapy, excercise, immobilization, etc.
    Recently we visited another surgeon and recommended a L5-S1 spinal fusion. He also recommended to try before surgery a rhizotomy and or facet joint injection.
    So my question is if you consider appropriate a fusion (he has a stable spine with a healthy disc and no spondylolisthesis) ?
    Is it a good choice to try rhizotomy and FJI for pain relief or is “just temporary relief” with no problem solving in the long run ?

    Thank you very much for your time and advise.

    Regards,
    Max

    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    If his disk is healthy on MRI, he is young (generally below the age of 21-24) he has no slip on flexion/extension X-rays and his pars fractures are not atrophic (“thinned out”) on CT scan, he is a candidate for pars repairs.

    The leg pain somewhat worries me as normally the fracture pannus (healing attempt by the body-a mass of cartilage and fibrous tissue that forms to try to heal the fracture) is not large enough to cause significant nerve irritation. If there is instability (motion) or an abnormally large healing pannus, the nerve becomes involved (leg pain). If the pannus is not too large, when the fracture is repaired, the pannus recedes in size and the nerve pain disappears, but not always.

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
    Holmin
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    Thank you Dr. Corenman,
    About the pain, forgot to tell you is present since aprox may 2016. If fracture pannus is causing the pain, is there anything else to do, beside pars repair ?
    If the possibility of a lhp is present (I’m sure its not instability) the procedure is still pars repair ?
    I’m still not sure if you recommend to try rhizotomy and FJI for pain relief or is “just temporary relief” with no problem solving in the long run.

    I appreciate your advice

    Regards,
    Max

    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    Is there a herniation at this pars fracture level (I assume “lhp” is lumbar herniated pulposis)? This would most certainly be noted on an MRI. If an HNP is present, the disc has a through and through tear and would preclude a pars repair. I would be very surprised if there was a herniation however as young individuals tend not to tear all the way through a disc wall.

    Rhizotomies generally do not work well with pars fractures as the pain is not generated from the facets. These facets are “disconnected” from the vertebral body by the pars fractures and are not loaded to cause pain.

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
    Holmin
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    sorry I meant by lhp, large healing pannus
    No herniated disc that I know

    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    The pannus will typically recede over time with a pars repair as it occurs due to an attempt to heal the fracture. It normally will shrink but as I noted before, not always.

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
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