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  • goldfinch
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    Good Evening Dr. Corenman,

    When I was 17 (now 50) I was in a terrible car accident and spent 4 days in the hospital. I was misdiagnosed with a sprained neck and concussion. I lived a very active life since that time without any major problems.

    Due to apparent occipital neuralgia, I was diagnosed with a non-union fracture of the odontoid about 5 years ago. X-Rays and an MRI showed some minor instability at that time. The treating orthopedic surgeon ordered PT which corrected the headaches.

    Recently the headaches reoccurred. Follow up X-Rays and a CT Scan indicated that the instability has gotten worse. Extension (head back) indicates a gap of approximately 1.0 mm. Flexion (head forward) indicates a gap of approximately 2.25 mm. The fracture is oriented to the front (anterior). There is partial fusion (arthritic) on one side.

    I have received 4 opinions thus far:

    1) An orthopedic surgeon said that he could do C1-C2 posterior fusion or I could continue to live with it but I had to keep in mind that a blow to the head could kill me. He ordered PT which failed this time.

    2) A chiropractor has been successful at eliminating the headaches. He said that he did not see any instability and urged me not to get surgery under any circumstances.

    3) A neurosurgeon said that surgery was imperative to stabilize the fracture whether it was anterior direct screw fixation (which he did not perform) or C1-C2 posterior fusion.

    4) Another neurosurgeon informed me that I am not a candidate for anterior direct screw fixation because the screws usually break when this surgery is attempted on remote fractures. He also indicated that surgery was imperative and recommended C1-C2 posterior fusion.

    I can live with the headaches and don’t have any symptoms of myelopathy. I don’t like the thought of losing the mobility of my head or becoming paralyzed. I don’t know who to trust. The chiropractor and the surgeons seem to be pitching their own book.

    I’m kind of scared and feel under duress. Thus, I am concerned that I can not make a rational, objective decision.

    I’m particularly impressed that you are both an M.D. and a D.C. so I would consider your opinion unbiased.

    Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Have a great weekend.

    Thanks,

    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    One of the questions I have is where the fracture is located. Is the fracture at the base of the dens (called a type two fracture), at the tip (upper 1/3) or at the base through the body of the C2 vertebra?

    The chiropractor does not understand the mechanics of this injury and his advice is probably not accurate.

    If this fractures is a type II (the most common type that does not heal), there is some risk of living with this injury. You however have lived with this disorder for 33 years without a catastrophic injury.

    Fixing a type II nonunion with an anterior dens screw has a high chance of not healing. The ends of the broken bone have healed years ago with scar. Stopping the motion with a screw probably will not allow healing.

    A posterior fusion of C1-2 will make this nonunion safe but at a cost to you of range of motion. 50% of rotational motion (looking over your shoulder) derives from the C1-2 level and fusion will cost you one-half of your rotation.

    Much depends upon the findings of the X-rays and CT scan. You note a “partial fusion” on one side. Is that between C1 and C2?

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
    goldfinch
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    Good Evening Dr. Corenman,

    Thank you for your prompt and courteous response.

    This is most definitely a Type II odontoid fracture as the break is across the base of the dens and confirmed by the radiologist’s report of CT scans taken on 11/10/2008 and again on 8/15/13. It was also referred to as a “chronic non-united fracture of the odontoid” in the X-ray report.

    The “partial fusion” that I mentioned were the chiropractor’s words. The radiologist’s report of 8/15/13 indicates that “A tiny calcification within the defect is unchanged since the previous study.” Further the report states that “Mild bony irregularity of the posterior wall of the dens is unchanged.” I think that is what the chiropractor was referring to.

    Discussion yesterday with a neurosurgeon indicates that “functionally” the dens is fractured completely through as the tiny calcification and bony irregularity contributes nothing of consequence.

    The gap that I referred to (1mm to 2.2mm)is the vertical distance between the base of the dens and the body of the C2 which increases with flexion. The neurosurgeon has indicated that the instability will most likely increase as I get older and that the risk of the C1 moving forward and compressing the spinal cord exists. I am neurologically intact at this time.

    The neurosurgeon indicated that the normal distance (posterior) between the C1-C2 has decreased (sagging in the back) which is why the occipital nerve is pinched. However, the radiologist’s report of the CT scan states ” There is no loss of vertebral body height.”

    The occipital headaches only occur when my head is upright and diminish when I lie flat (like when I got the CT scan). It seems lately that no matter what I do it aggravates this condition and although the headaches are under control I do have a persistent pain at the right rear base of my skull.

    Have a great evening!

    Thanks,

    Goldfinch

    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    You have a typical un-united type II odontoid fracture. “Sagging” of the C1-2 level occurs whens the odontoid does not keep the alignment of C1 on C2 and the posterior ring of C1 “sags” on C2. The nerve root of C2 (greater occipital nerve) can be affected. Vertebral body height has no affect on this sagging and would be expected to be normal in the radiologist’s report.

    There is a risk of neurological injury with this fracture. Obviously, you have lived with it for many years but there always has been a risk present. To fix it requires a fusion of C1-2 but at the price of reduced rotation of your neck.

    Care of the headaches without dealing with the fracture instability can possibly be performed by facet or occipital nerve blocks (see website).

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
    goldfinch
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    Thank you Dr. Corenman. Your response helped me to make the decision to have the surgery (C1-C2 Posterior Fusion) which is scheduled for 7:30 A.M. this morning.

    Thanks Again!

    Goldfinch

    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    Great! Please let us know how you do postoperatively.

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
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