numb foot after L5 S1 Laminotomy discetomy

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Pitt3j
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October 22, 2017 at 10:41 pm

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I had a L5-S1 herniation in 2015 I did all the conservative treatments: injections, PT, Ect. still had pain going down right leg mostly and some left, tingling and little numbness on top of feet. At night I would get severe calf cramps. Had laminotomy discectomy in march 2017. immediately after I woke from surgey I noticed my left foot was numb and cold-like a block of ice. they told me it was normal. Well, 7 months later I had a nerve conduction study which said Bilateral S1 radiculopathy and a right L4-5 radiculopathy vs post-surgical denervation and a mild to moderate diffuse sensorimotor peripheral neuropathy in the right and left lower extremities. I also had a CT myelogram which I was told revealed a basically bone on bone disc compressing nerve in the same area repaired L5-S1 and now he wants to do a fusion at that level? My left foot has stayed numb the entire time with pain and it gets more pain the more I walk around or stand on it. I also have mild sensations in my right foot and some back pain mostly dull type pains in the buttock area of the right side going down back of the leg at times and middle of back. My main concern is my foot, I wondering if I have nerve damage because I cannot get an real answer. I never had a problem with the bottom of my feet. I was walking fine before the surgery. I not convinced to have a fusion or another surgery if it not going to help my foot. I can bend over fine, standing for long periods of time causes some back hip area pain at times but my foot is the main issue. Also, what is the risk of not having the surgery with nerve compression and disc almost or gone. I am afraid that I may go into this surgery and come out with both feet in this condition.

Pitt3j
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October 22, 2017 at 11:01 pm

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I also forgot to mention that the L5-S1 herniated disc had calcified according to Doctor.

Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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October 23, 2017 at 7:25 am

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You have two problems in your leg, a radiculopathy and a peripheral neuropathy. The peripheral neuropathy is an independent condition that occurs with aging and other disorders such as diabetes, malabsorption syndrome or even Lyme disease. See https://neckandback.com/conditions/peripher”al-neuropathy/ to understand this disorder.

The other is a radiculopathy. This has occurred due to the previous nerve compression due to the disc herniation. You did wait two years before getting this nerve surgically decompressed so there could be some chronic nerve symptoms still present due to the long standing nerve compression (see https://neckandback.com/conditions/chronic-radiculopathy/ to understand this condition).

If the disc has collapsed due to herniation and surgery, you could have a condition of foraminal collapse that can cause continued nerve compression, even now after surgery. See https://neckandback.com/conditions/foraminal-collapse-lumbar-spine/.

If you have lower back pain as the main component of your complaint (pain in the center of your back that does not seem off to one side or radiate into the buttocks/leg), then you probably have IDR (isolated disc resorption). See https://neckandback.com/conditions/isolated-disc-resorption-lumbar-spine-idr/.

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Eric S

Sep 26, 2021

by Eric S on Donald Corenman, MD, DC

Successful pars repair at 46 years old

Back in November of 2018 (at 46 years old) I came from Vancouver BC to have a pars repair done with Dr. Donald Corenman at the Steadman Clinic in Vail Colorado. I'm finally posting this review nearly three years later in late 2021. The reason I waited so long was I wanted to know the final result before I posted my review. Unfortunately in that time Dr. Corenman has retired. Nevertheless, I want to post this review of Dr. Corenman and his staff at the Steadman Clinic in their excellent treatment of my L5 pars interarticularis.

I fractured my pars at age 42 back in 2014 when rolling on the gym floor, and was denied treatment by the Canadian healthcare system, probably due to my age. First my GP told me there was no surgical option for a pars defect, which was quite incorrect! I tried to live with it, but the symptoms worsened (periodic random spine slippage and weeks of resultant pain after just bending over to tie my shoe, so I eventually learned to mostly squat and hardly bend). When I finally consulted with Canadian spine surgeons, I was told they believed my pars defect had been congenital (since birth). This was absurd, considering I had done extreme martial arts (including jiu jitsu) for years prior, as well as 5 years of reinforcing steel full time in my 20s, probably the hardest job on the back you can find. No pars defect like mine would possibly have allowed this--ergo it was impossible that I had had the defect since birth. I did however have an asymptomatic congenital spina bifida occulta that made me more susceptible to a pars fracture. In 2014 in one instant, I went from having the strongest back people I knew said they'd ever seen, to being unable to safely bend over and tie my shoe without a non-negligible risk of my spine slipping randomly (which would lead to weeks of pain after each occurrence). This was due to the unilateral L5 pars defect, otherwise known as spondylolysis. It was when lying in pain on the floor 4 years later after maybe the 6th spine slippage event post injury, that I had had enough, and resolved to have surgery. If Canada's "universal health care" said no, I would make lemonade from lemons, and find the very best surgeon in the world at pars repairs. That was Dr. Donald Corenman. Dr. Corenman back in 2018 ran a website https://neckandback.com/ that dedicated many pages to the science of every aspect of pars repairs, from eligibility (good discs on MRI), to best surgical techniques (minimal open compared to minimally invasive), best imaging to use (i.e., O-Arm with Stealth imaging vs. older fluoroscopy), the ideal amount of BMP to use and why not use too much or too little, and much more, all to do with pars repairs, pages upon pages of his site just on the pars, with scientific references and his own extensive expert opinion. As a health research statistician, I was very impressed with this. It was in stark contrast to the websites of other spine surgeons which barely gave the pars a word or two, focusing almost exclusively on fusions. I had found the best surgeon in the world for pars repairs, and so after Dr. Corenman personally screened my MRI to ensure my discs were healthy, I booked the surgery.

Being 46 years old at the time of surgery in 2018, with a 4-year-old pars fracture from 2014 combined with a congenital SBO meant my pars fragment was somewhat atrophied, but it was "very solid", said Dr. Corenman in the operative report. Nevertheless, it was challenging with two things to fix, the pars and SBO, and OR time was around 4 hours. Recovery over the following months was guided by a very clear "Spine binder" from the Steadman Clinic with strict rules of "no BLT" (no bending, lifting or twisting), and illustrated physiotherapy guidelines. They even warned patients to avoid fish oil supplements, which could excessively dampen inflammation and hence slow bone healing. They answered many questions I had during months of recovery, with responses coming from the very supportive Lori Fugate (then director of Dr. Corenman's practice), and Ehrich Bean (then physician's assistant at the practice), as well as a couple calls with Dr. Corenman himself after two of the CT scans. Ehrich Bean offered great advice for taking the spine binder conservatively due to the nature of pars repairs vs. fusions. The final post-op CT scan I had was a couple weeks ago at 34 months post-op, and Dr. Corenman had retired, but I got a very positive and informative call from Eric Strauch (current PA at the Steadman Clinic under Dr. Corenman's replacement there, and who had also worked with Dr. Corenman previously). The staff at the Steadman Clinic were extremely supportive all the way through the process. I should mention, the local Canadian spine surgeon did offer me very good post-operative support including antibiotics as needed to deal with a mild surface incision-site infection early on, booking numerous x-rays when I felt something was amiss, as well as booking all four of my post-op CT scans. I am very grateful for that support also.

My final result shows plenty of solid bone across the pars and a healed SBO, with my vertebral body now a solid bone ring instead of being broken at two places as it was pre-op. Does my spine hold up in the real world? You bet! I have recently dug and moved several yards of dirt and sand and gravel by myself (shovel and wheelbarrow!) to fix our water main, pulled roots from the yard, moved several "portable" (these are HUGE) air conditioners up several flights of stairs my myself, and lifted weights. I now run 2 miles (3.2 KM) several times weekly with a hard 100 meter dash in the middle. I bend deeply before each run I go on, with no spine slippage. My spine feels amazing. I can bend over to do exercise, or real word tasks, with no risk of spine slippage.

My sincere thanks to God, Dr. Donald Corenman, Lori Fugate, Ehrich Bean, Eric Strauch, and the Steadman Clinic, as well as the Canadian spine surgeon who offered me excellent post-operative care back in Canada. You have all given me a new lease on life.

Sincerely,
Eric S

Robert S

May 11, 2021

by Robert S on Donald Corenman, MD, DC

Back Fusion Surgery

I had my entire lumbar spine fused in November of 2018. I had scoliosis , with pinched nerves that were so painful I could hardly walk - and standing for more than a few minutes was impossible. Even sitting was painful.
The fusion surgery produced immediate relief! And the recovery was much easier than I expected.
To this day I can do all the activities I love from hiking, to standing in a stream fly fishing to riding my bike long distances - or just walking down the street with my wife.
Kudos to Dr. Corenman and his staff, (including the two Erics) for taking such good care of me!

Leslie R

Jul 9, 2020

by Leslie R on Donald Corenman, MD, DC

TLIF

I had my TLIF surgery on 6/24/2020 by Dr. Corenman, I can not say enough good things about the Dr or his staff. I was always treated with respect and explained everything throughly, that made it easy for everyone to understand. I highly recommend Dr. Corenman and the Steadman Clinic.

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