Giant Cell Tumor

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Georgia
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January 24, 2012 at 5:39 pm

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Hello Dr. Corenman,

Thank you for your informative site, it has been a great benefit to me.

Today, I got an MRI of my Lumbar Spine and after examining the images think it is possible I may have a Giant Cell Tumor in my lumbar spine around the L3-L4. (Of Course, I am waiting for the professionals to tell me for sure, I definitely could be mistaken)

My follow-up appointment is in a week or so and I wondered if you would tell me what treatment is recommended if this is indeed the case, generally speaking.

Thank you,

Georgia

Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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January 24, 2012 at 11:54 pm

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Giant cell tumors of the spine are rare. These tumors are generally benign (they act locally only) but some can metastasize to other structures like the lungs. These tumors normally need to be resected surgically and the spine reconstructed afterwards. Sometimes, even with surgical resection, these tumors can recur in the same location.

Since these tumors are so rare, my first thought is that this is not a giant cell tumor but something different. I assume you have a first class surgeon helping you with the diagnosis. Get more eyes than only one set on this problem to comment on diagnosis and treatment.

Dr. Corenman

PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.

Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.

Georgia
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January 25, 2012 at 1:50 am

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#5451

I hope it is too rare for me. I appreciate your good advice Dr. Corenman. I definitely will see if I can have more people diagnose this problem.

I also did notice that the Psoas Major adjacent to the “tumor” has atrophied. On the sagittal view of the lumbar spine it looks almost exactly like another mri of a thoracic Giant Cell Tumor. On the axial view it has well-defined boundaries and extends from the body of the vertebrae, the pedicle to the articular facet.

However, I wonder if there are two tumors, because there quite a large round looking tumor on the left side of the Transverse Process on the following image…not sure which vertebrae.

It is hard to wait…

Thank you! :)

Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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January 25, 2012 at 4:46 am

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The psoas muscle atrophy is unusual even in the face of tumor in a vertebral body. Even if you do have a Giant Cell Tumor, it would be one for the record books to have two different tumor line occupying the adjacent spaces so that would be highly unlikely.

Dr. Corenman

PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.

Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.

Georgia
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January 25, 2012 at 9:22 am

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Well, it is interesting. I will wait for more information and return to tell you what I discover. Your analysis gives me some relief. Thank you!

DanD
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January 30, 2012 at 3:58 pm

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Georgia,

Dr. Corenman’s words about giant cell tumors are spot on. Based on my wife’s giant cell tumor 17 years ago, I’d like to share what I’ve learned.

My wife suffered from a giant cell tumor 17 years ago. At that time, around 70% of giant cell tumors were reported young women, around 16 to 26 years of age, in the tibia or fibula of the knee joint. I doubt things have changed since then, but I’m not a doctor and my memory and knowledge of the subject are limited.

Here is what I remember for sure: only a senior member of a surgical staff with specific giant cell tumor experience should perform a biopsy, and the correct biopsy needle should be used. The wrong procedure or needle can cause the tumor to metastasize into the lungs, liver or brain, which could be fatal. Waiting a few weeks to find the right specialist is probably the right option.

Pregnancy hormones cause giant cell tumors to grow explosively, which could cause them to rupture and then metastasize. Birth control, and especially pregnancy, might be a bad idea until diagnosis is confirmed and the tumor is removed without remission.

A specialist who deals with giant cell tumors is Dr. Ross Wilkins. He’s in the Denver area and is easy to track down with google. I have no association with him or his office, other than the fact that he saved my wife 17 years ago.

I hope this is helpful to you!

Dan
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by Eric S on Donald Corenman, MD, DC

Successful pars repair at 46 years old

Back in November of 2018 (at 46 years old) I came from Vancouver BC to have a pars repair done with Dr. Donald Corenman at the Steadman Clinic in Vail Colorado. I'm finally posting this review nearly three years later in late 2021. The reason I waited so long was I wanted to know the final result before I posted my review. Unfortunately in that time Dr. Corenman has retired. Nevertheless, I want to post this review of Dr. Corenman and his staff at the Steadman Clinic in their excellent treatment of my L5 pars interarticularis.

I fractured my pars at age 42 back in 2014 when rolling on the gym floor, and was denied treatment by the Canadian healthcare system, probably due to my age. First my GP told me there was no surgical option for a pars defect, which was quite incorrect! I tried to live with it, but the symptoms worsened (periodic random spine slippage and weeks of resultant pain after just bending over to tie my shoe, so I eventually learned to mostly squat and hardly bend). When I finally consulted with Canadian spine surgeons, I was told they believed my pars defect had been congenital (since birth). This was absurd, considering I had done extreme martial arts (including jiu jitsu) for years prior, as well as 5 years of reinforcing steel full time in my 20s, probably the hardest job on the back you can find. No pars defect like mine would possibly have allowed this--ergo it was impossible that I had had the defect since birth. I did however have an asymptomatic congenital spina bifida occulta that made me more susceptible to a pars fracture. In 2014 in one instant, I went from having the strongest back people I knew said they'd ever seen, to being unable to safely bend over and tie my shoe without a non-negligible risk of my spine slipping randomly (which would lead to weeks of pain after each occurrence). This was due to the unilateral L5 pars defect, otherwise known as spondylolysis. It was when lying in pain on the floor 4 years later after maybe the 6th spine slippage event post injury, that I had had enough, and resolved to have surgery. If Canada's "universal health care" said no, I would make lemonade from lemons, and find the very best surgeon in the world at pars repairs. That was Dr. Donald Corenman. Dr. Corenman back in 2018 ran a website https://neckandback.com/ that dedicated many pages to the science of every aspect of pars repairs, from eligibility (good discs on MRI), to best surgical techniques (minimal open compared to minimally invasive), best imaging to use (i.e., O-Arm with Stealth imaging vs. older fluoroscopy), the ideal amount of BMP to use and why not use too much or too little, and much more, all to do with pars repairs, pages upon pages of his site just on the pars, with scientific references and his own extensive expert opinion. As a health research statistician, I was very impressed with this. It was in stark contrast to the websites of other spine surgeons which barely gave the pars a word or two, focusing almost exclusively on fusions. I had found the best surgeon in the world for pars repairs, and so after Dr. Corenman personally screened my MRI to ensure my discs were healthy, I booked the surgery.

Being 46 years old at the time of surgery in 2018, with a 4-year-old pars fracture from 2014 combined with a congenital SBO meant my pars fragment was somewhat atrophied, but it was "very solid", said Dr. Corenman in the operative report. Nevertheless, it was challenging with two things to fix, the pars and SBO, and OR time was around 4 hours. Recovery over the following months was guided by a very clear "Spine binder" from the Steadman Clinic with strict rules of "no BLT" (no bending, lifting or twisting), and illustrated physiotherapy guidelines. They even warned patients to avoid fish oil supplements, which could excessively dampen inflammation and hence slow bone healing. They answered many questions I had during months of recovery, with responses coming from the very supportive Lori Fugate (then director of Dr. Corenman's practice), and Ehrich Bean (then physician's assistant at the practice), as well as a couple calls with Dr. Corenman himself after two of the CT scans. Ehrich Bean offered great advice for taking the spine binder conservatively due to the nature of pars repairs vs. fusions. The final post-op CT scan I had was a couple weeks ago at 34 months post-op, and Dr. Corenman had retired, but I got a very positive and informative call from Eric Strauch (current PA at the Steadman Clinic under Dr. Corenman's replacement there, and who had also worked with Dr. Corenman previously). The staff at the Steadman Clinic were extremely supportive all the way through the process. I should mention, the local Canadian spine surgeon did offer me very good post-operative support including antibiotics as needed to deal with a mild surface incision-site infection early on, booking numerous x-rays when I felt something was amiss, as well as booking all four of my post-op CT scans. I am very grateful for that support also.

My final result shows plenty of solid bone across the pars and a healed SBO, with my vertebral body now a solid bone ring instead of being broken at two places as it was pre-op. Does my spine hold up in the real world? You bet! I have recently dug and moved several yards of dirt and sand and gravel by myself (shovel and wheelbarrow!) to fix our water main, pulled roots from the yard, moved several "portable" (these are HUGE) air conditioners up several flights of stairs my myself, and lifted weights. I now run 2 miles (3.2 KM) several times weekly with a hard 100 meter dash in the middle. I bend deeply before each run I go on, with no spine slippage. My spine feels amazing. I can bend over to do exercise, or real word tasks, with no risk of spine slippage.

My sincere thanks to God, Dr. Donald Corenman, Lori Fugate, Ehrich Bean, Eric Strauch, and the Steadman Clinic, as well as the Canadian spine surgeon who offered me excellent post-operative care back in Canada. You have all given me a new lease on life.

Sincerely,
Eric S

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