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  • meni learn
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    September 14, 2021 at 2:38 am
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    #34337

    I have Q to if its in most major cases the disc collapse on the front connect to ligament flavum to compress on spinal cord (with out compress on the front)(u see connection between this things ?(IN stage specific of the c s (in c2-3 it is not happen because the anatomical structure of the c spine (but in lower from c3-4 to below its effected
    so from c3 to c7 (if disc collapse its affected to ligament to compress on spine (in the start close to csf so black. (I try to guess it by the pictures I see and the condition of the disc You are an expert in knowing this situation)
    what is disc collapse what is different from degenerative disc disease ?

    Thank

    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    September 14, 2021 at 7:15 am
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    #34340

    Discal collapse can cause central stenosis due to the ligamentum flavum “bunching” as the ligament does become more redundant with disc height loss. Generally, you would already have to have preexisting congenital canal stenosis for this to happen.

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
    meni learn
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    September 14, 2021 at 10:02 am
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    #34342

    Disc collapse and dosc degeneration is the same thing in the language of expert?(spine surgeon know what disc is not going to hold time ?
    I share with u good images of T 2 image section of axial and sagittal
    Its from 2016 but u can see the ligmanet flavum in level 3-4 disc very compress on the csf
    And in c5-7 dont see that
    U can also see the size of the disc and the color (the image is very good )
    U can also see the degeneration in c2-4
    Also disc c4-5 its thin (the a collision with wall of the pool in backstroke get big impact(what can get in accident like this off course) directly on cervical spine.
    Thanks

    meni learn
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    September 14, 2021 at 10:05 am
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    #34343

    One realtive section of mri with T 2 axial and sagittal in full screen
    And i focus on the disc in different level and (run the cut line on axial and u see the disc in side view more clear
    Also ligament flavum on the back see

    meni learn
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    September 14, 2021 at 11:27 am
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    #34344

    i can published EAR some of THE SECTION OF THE MR T2 SAGGITAL and axial to clear more what i mean .
    thanks

    meni learn
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    September 14, 2021 at 10:58 pm
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    #34348

    in this link i show in big screen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmllFVKz3aI
    (with axial t2 and side the spine from the side and u can see
    the ddd in uper neck c2-4 and see (on the c3-4 ligament compress csf (its on the csf ) thin disc c4-5
    u can see the disc what danage from the presser of the impact a collison with the the wall end of the pool
    thanks

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