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in reply to: Facet Joints #22141
Hello Dr,
The EMG was performed after surgery. My procedure was August 2015 and EMG April 2016.
A CT scan was performed and states solid fusion anteriorly from C3-T1 and C3-C7 posteriorly.Report states post surgical degenerative changes throughout cervical spine.
I sent my CT and MRI scans for review and was told laminectomy did not decompress nerve roots. So I’m back to the drawing board. Any thoughts?
Ashley
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in reply to: Facet Joints #22082Hello Dr,
The EMG was performed after surgery.My Surgery was August 2015 and EMG April 2016.
A CT scan was performed and states solid fusion with C7-T1, with post surgerical degenerative changes throughout cervical spine.
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in reply to: Facet Joints #22075Good evening Dr. Corenman,
I hope all is well with you. My neck continues to bother me on a day to day basis. The base of my neck, arms(biceps),shoulder blades and right side occipital headaches with dizziness.I’m still hearing popping and crackling when i move my neck in different directions. Any sitting or walking will significantly magnify the pain and discomfort.
Per my neurosurgeon, the MRI and CT scan shows post surgerical multilevel degenerative changes within cervical spine and multiple level facet hypertrophy. Recent EMG/Nerve conduction shows moderate chronic C5, C6, C7 radiculopathy bilateral nerve irregularity. The following reports was provided:
C3 Productive changes of the posterior elements mildly impinging the posterior aspect of the spinal cord
C3-C4 mild productive changes of the joints of Luschka and facet joint degenerative
changes causing mild left neural foramina narrowingC4-C5 mild productive changes of the joints of Luschka and facet joint
degenerative changes causing mild right neural foramina narrowingC5-C6 prominent facet hypertrophy and bony ankylosis of the bilateral C5-C6 facets
Straightening of the expected cervical lordosis
T2/3 & T3/4 left paracentral disc herniations are noted both levels deforming the thecal sac. Loss of disc space height and signal is noted at both levels.
T4/5, T5/6 and T6/7 disc bulges notes at all three levels deforming the thecal sac. Bilateral paracentral components are noted at T4/5. Right paracentral components are noted at T5/6 and T6/7.
T7/8 and T8/9, paracentral disc herniations are noted at both levels deforming the thecal sac.
My surgeon said nothing surgerical can be done. Pain doctor performed Occiptial nerve block which helped with headaches for approximately 4 days. The pain came back.
C5, C6 and C7 facet block on left and right side with minimal relief. Still have pain in base of skull and muscle spasms at injection site and levels below.
I also had a third party neurosurgeon review my scans and in his opinion my laminectomy did not decompress nerves. He would like to perform:
Foraminotomy
Laminotomy
Percutaneous Discectomy
Facet Thermal Ablation
I’m still in disbelief with how long this has played out. Any suggestions you would take with the above findings and issues? If you recalled I had 3 ACDF’s C3-T1
1 Foraminotomy (left side C6, C7) and 1 Laminectomy (bilerateral C3-C7).Any suggestion would be appreciated.
Ashley
in reply to: Facet Joints #20329Hello Dr Corenman,
I would like to start by saying thank you for all your help and time in answering our questions.
My question tonight is relating to cervical facet joints and pain that they may cause. I’m now one month post ACDF C7/T1, so to date I am fused anteriorly from C3-T1 and C3-C7 posteriorly. I am told that technically all facet joint pain should resolve since no movement will happen at these levels. I’m a bit concerned since, every time I go for walks and sitting causes my pain level at the base of my neck, arms, and shoulder blades to become unbearable. I am told by other doctors that even with fusions its not unheard of to have facet joint pain. I researched some of your older posts and my understanding is any facet pain would be from a different level. So my continued pain should not be facet, since I am all fused? My other concern is did the laminectomy decompress all the nerves?
My question now is, do i go to a pain specialist and have them perform a selective nerve block? Need to figure out where the pain generators are.
in reply to: ACDF C7/T1 #20026Dr. Corenman,
A big thank you! I did see my neurologist today and she stated surgery should be a last resort, I’ve been through too much. After a review of my scans, and my symptoms, she noted that my C7/T1 subluxation is mild and highly doubts, neck pain, muscle spams, headaches, bilateral arm pain, forearms, fingers numbness (tingling) etc is from this subluxation.
Her thoughts are most of my symptoms are in line with post-laminectomy syndrome. She also heard the cracking and popping with flexion/extensions and did not know why. After sitting with her for approx 30 minutes things tightened up further, which she stated was in the area of C5 to T1 (both left and right side). She wants to think about my issues and look at the information further, and she will call me in a few days on what my next steps should be.
You mentioned flexion/extension studies. Are you referring to X-rays or MRI and would contrast be required if MRI? Also if an ACDF is performed due to instability, what range of motion can be expected to be lost at this level? I thought, I read somewhere that C7/T1 has the lowest movement in cervical spine? Thanks always for your response.
in reply to: ACDF C7/T1 #20007Dr. Corenman,
I can’t thank you enough!My decision is to put off surgery and get more diagnostic testing. My surgeon is on vacation for two weeks and I left him a message.
My medical records were sent to a Minimally Invasive Spine Surgery Center and they would like to see images also before they send a formal report. They mentioned that my thoracic spine also has five levels of herniations, not sure if this can cause some of my symptoms?
Per our conversation, they were a bit surprised that after four open spine surgeries with fusion (posterior & anterior) that :
1) C3 Cord impingment
2)Mild Neural Foraminal narrowing @ C3-4, C6-7, C7-T1
3)Facet Joints degenerative changes @ C3-4, C4-5, C6-7, C7-T1
4)C7/T1 subluxation
They would like to perform the following:
Foraminotomy – used to relieve the symptoms associated with nerve root compression in cases where the foramen is being compressed by bone, disc, scar tissue, or excessive ligament development and results in a pinched nerve. (click this link to learn more about this procedure)
Laminotomy – used to relieve pressure off the spinal canal for the exiting nerve root and spinal cord; a common spinal condition known as spinal stenosis. This procedure is designed to increase the amount of space available for the neural tissue and thus releasing the pinched nerve(s). (click this link to learn more about this procedure)
Percutaneous Discectomy – removes portion of a herniated or bulging disc that is pressing on a nerve root or the spinal cord. Surgeons utilize X-ray monitoring and fiber-optics devices in order to see precisely what is compressing the nerve and remove it without causing any destabilization of the spine. (click this link to learn more about this procedure)
Facet Thermal Ablation – a laser is used to debride the facet joint and deadens the nerve within the joint that causes painful symptoms. (click this link to learn more about this procedure)
They will get back to me within a few days, however an interesting point was raised on my thoracic spine. Can these herniations cause a problem from neck pain, arm pain, headaches etc?
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