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Hi Dr Corenman,
I have been working my same job 1-2 nights a week on weekends. Usually my back hurts after I come home from work from a 6-8 level on a 10 scale. I then deal with the pain for a few days until it subsides to a very comfortable level of 3-4 and pain meds are usually effective.So I just have a few new symptoms that are alarming me.
1.New Years Day (Happy New Year!)I had worked Sat, Sun and Monday then,extreme pain in the lower back, buttocks and thighs after waking up, so much I couldn’t move my legs to walk . I had to call for my hubby’s help to get to the bathroom. My buttocks legs and thighs were clenched very tight and the pain was excruciating. I was afraid to walk without hubby’s help. The pain subsided after about 20-30 minutes and I took my muscle relaxer and pain med. I havent had that type of
pain since then.2. My back is staying swollen from the mid section, (where I’ve had scoliosis for years) to the sacrum. Bulges are seen visibly on each side of the spine at the middle but more on one side than the other. I noticed this on Sunday after working all night Saturday with a heavy pt over 200# in wt.
Also my lower back has a very visible hole (indention only-skin is intact)in it! about the size of my fist, where the spine goes inward, and I cant feel the spine here it just goes in and is very swollen. My back has never looked or felt this way before. I have had swelling and pain ,just never seen this hole in my back.
Do I need to be concerned? Has my listhesis worsened or slipped from stage I to stage 2?i never officially got my listhesis “staged” it was just termed mild slippage on my MRI in August 2012.
I had x-rays done of my lower back while bending foward, then straight at lower back, then hyper extending the back. I was never told what stage the listhesis is. My doctor whom looked at the x-rays said it doesn’t look like I need surgery but he does see the bilateral spondylolysis on the xray, but didn’t mention anything about the slippage.This was in October 2012 that he looked at the xrays.The doctor I’ ve been seeing now is only a pain mgmt doctor and after i reported problem#1, his nurse called me back cancelled my appt and referred me to a spinal rehab clinic. He stated he has done everything he can.
I have the appt with Dallas Spinal Rehab on Tuesday.What do you think this is the best course of action for these symptoms? I will at least go to the appt for an eval. but I really didn’t want Physical therapy. I tried that for 6 weeks back in August 2012 it only made my back hurt more.
They did find hyperlordosis on my MRI consistent with the listhesis.
Any words of advice would be helpful, thanks so much for your valuable time.
I am getting tired of the increasing and constant pain.
I also have some constipation but have a bm once every week or so, & bladder functions are normal.
Severe cramping in right leg at times sometimes while driving.
It seems like I’ve been riding the merry go round of Drs trying to treat these issues with my back, and because of the workers comp? I’ m not sure I’m receiving the correct treatment for my diagnosis. The pain is just becoming intolerable and unlivable most of the time and I don’t want to become a drug addict.
Thanks for any advice.
MK(aka worrywart)in reply to: Recent Diagnosed Bilateral Pars Fracture with Pain #7592Thanks! for checking “back” with me. No pun intended:)
My pain levels are manageable as long as I don’t over-do it. I’ve noticed that if I over-do it, (typically I’m a work-a-holic and very active), my back will have sharp continuous spasms. Since a couple weeks ago my doc has put me on slelaxin 500mg prn and that has been helping.
After I go to work doing my usual workload(which is turning and positioning my pt every 2-3 hrs for 13 hrs)2X week, I do still have some pinching and constant aching with some inflammation at the lower back. I usually take the skelaxin + Ultram 50mg prn when my levels are very high(pain level at 8 after work for 1-2 days).
I was taking Mobic for the past 6 months but stopped per doc order because I started having chest pain, SOB and jaw pain(last week). Also a new dx of high blood pressure was made (last week) and I am now taking a B/P pill too.
Any way, now that I have stopped taking the Mobic I have definitely noticed an increase in my pain levels,stiffness,and swelling but nothing untolerable.
I am definitely staying positive about this whole issue, and practicing some of the core exercises they taught me in therapy.
I am working 2 days a week primarily due to the back pain and exhaustion from it, until I can ascertain if my back is getting better or not.
I have just a couple of symptoms that I am concerned about that I will bring up next week at my doc appt.: I have severe foot cramps in both feet usually after walking for 30-45 min or so(shopping) and it usually happens when I sit down to drive my car. I extend my foot to the gas or brake pedal and then ouch! a very painful cramp occurs usually in the right foot but it has happened in both feet on occasion. I have to stop the car and wait for the cramps to pass and then continue.I also have sharp lower back pain on one side at times when walking from the parking lot into the store(short distance) that comes and goes. I also have a cramplike pain that starts at the ball of my foot and feels like it radiates to the outer edge of the foot and toward the heel.
Is this part of the herniated disc intenuating the thecal sac and bothering nerves there that is creating all this foot pain? Or maybe it’s potassium depletion since I just started taking Benicar/HTZ 20/12.5mg every day.
In any case I feel I am not having any severe symptoms,as long as I don’t over do it(overdoing it is like the occasion I babysat my grandson all day picking him up holding him on my hip , stooping to change him ect.for 10 hrs-he is 2yrs old and weighs only 25lbs.)This made my back have unconrollable intermittant sharp knife like spasms in my lower back. Makes it hard to function when the spasms like this are ongoing! the spasms kept up for hours, and the Mobic, and skelaxin didn’t work for this! I had to take those + Ultarm and Zanafex before I finally had some relief!
It’s when I work that my back hurts the most and my meds are doing a pretty good job of taking care of the pain so far.
I hopefully wont need a surgery, but I realize that I may have to have one eventually especially if my back pain worsens.
The insurance company is continuing to pay for my doctors visits and meds, but they have denied the epidural injection my doc ordered.
I have decided to seek legal counsel to help me through this, because they do owe me a payment and denied the epidural (of which me and my doc think is necessary-spasms!)
Anyway I’m trying to get back to my routine, not sure how this is all going to turn out yet though. The doc’s office said he will be wanting to put me on something else for the pain since I had some reactions to the Mobic 15mg.
Is there any possibility I have spinal stenosis secondary to the herniated discs, could this be causing the spasms and cramps?
Thanks for your time:) Merry Christmas to you!in reply to: Recent Diagnosed Bilateral Pars Fracture with Pain #6935Hi Dr. Corenman:)
Wow! you’ve done such a great job of answering all these questions,
you’ve inspired me to ask one about my own condition which is almost identical to the man’s above. I’m a nurse(LVN) of 14yrs.and on 6/21/12,when repositioning a pt upward,I was pulling the large pt(about 150-200#)upward in an electric bed on wheels.The pt was coughing/having trouble breathing and had slid downward towards the foot of the bed and i was pulling pt up to the top of bed so i could then elevate the HOB and help her breathe easier. I do repostion all my pts primarily on my own while families sleep during night hours, every 2-3hrs x 13hrs. This was 4am.
The bed rolled over the carpeted floor abruptly as I tugged my pt upward in bed(i am standing at the head of bed doing this) and the bed pinned me between it and the wall at the waist level. When I had pulled the pt up- the bed was unlocked so it rolled. Then my back started to pain, but not unbearably just pangs in my lower back. later that day after my “nap” at home,I could not get up out of bed because my back hurt in the worst way, my husband had to help me out of bed. I took tylenol and it helped with the pain but on my next night’s assignment i kept having nerve pain in both sides of my lower back that radiated down my legs that would come and go. I had dull achy nerve pain also seated in my car on the drive home and when I bent to pick up my son’s toothbrush at home, I had a shooting pain at the bottom of my back . I called company nurse and I’ve been on disabilty since then and have nerve pain every day.
The work comp Dr.labeled it a lumbar sprain.
I went to 3 weeks of therapy to strengthen my core, the pain worsened with a machine that would slide upward with your pushing against gravity with your legs and body weight.I hurt worse after each therapy. On my last week of therapy, 3rd week@ 3X a week I had the constant nerve pain at my back and after that the therapist tried to straighten and push on my scoliosis I had sharp knife like stabbing pain at the center of back after.Also, On the drive to therapy I started having leg pain in right leg from behind the knee to my great toe and across the top of my foot. I immediatly told the work comp Dr. of my s/s and he ordered an MRI(i was taken off the weight machine that day, but did core exercises).
Finally on 8/26/12 my MRI was done and showed the following:
(I bet you get these a lot):)
At least a left L5-S1 spondylolysis, possibly bilateral spondylolysis, with minimal spondylolisthesis. Broad based disc protrusion noted without attenuation of thecal sac or neural impingement.At T12-L1, a broad based right posterior central disc protrusion mildly attenuates the right half of the thecal sac. Upper sacrum in near horizontal plane and exaggerated lumbar lordosis contribute to unusal mechanical stresses and low back pain.I also have L3-4 bulging,L4-5 bulging and intraosseous hemangioma within T12 on the right.
I am currently having pain levels (while Typing) at level 5 on 1-10 scale.The pain has improved since the injury and comes and goes as I take mobic and flexeril prn. My Dr, ordered my return to work with no restrictions yesterday, but I am still getting frequent nerve and lower back pain.He also ordered a referral to see a specialist of my choice for continued back pain.I am brave and need to work. I have ordered a lumbar back support. should I go for it and get back to work using a brace, turning and lifting heavy patients for 13 hour shifts, or should I insist on seeing a specialist first( This is third specialist the 1st two didnt bother reading my MRI & didnt care how much pain I was in. Once I start working at my job they close my case until I am reinjured again. Thanks! for your time, Dr.Corenman. -
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