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in reply to: L5 subluxation #4676
Ischemic pain (pain from lack of blood flow) and nerve compression pain can seem similar but there are substantial differences.Ischemic pain normally causes cramping and starts distally and progresses proximally (starts in the calf and ascends up the leg). This type of pain is made worse with activity and the position of the back does not affect the pain. That is- if you walked enough to develop pain, just the act of stopping walking will give relief without having to bend forward. In addition, there will always be a consistant distance that you can walk until the onset of pain.
Nerve pain is only rarely associated with cramping. The distance to walk with pain onset typically varies day to day or week to week. The pain will radiate from the buttocks down the leg instead of calf to buttocks. The pain will be relieved with position of the back- unlike ischemic pain. If you develop leg pain, most likely when you bend over, sit or crouch down, the leg pain will abate. Also, it is unlikely that ischemic symptoms will include back pain where spondylolysthesis will commonly cause back pain.
The fact that your vascular insufficiency is from a trauma and not developmental from a true vascular disease is in your favor and makes any potential surgery less risky.
Hope this helps.
Dr. Corenman
PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.in reply to: L5 subluxation #4674I assume you are in the 40-60 age range. The subluxation you have at L5 is most likely an isthmic spondylolysthesis (broken pars- see website). There is the possibility that you have a degenerative spondylolysthesis. The fact that it is increasing in amount of slip is concerning as that means the stability of the slip is compromised. If you have increasing back pain, that would fit with increased instability.
If you have gone through physical therapy and continue to have back pain (and even leg pain if it is caused by nerve compression and not vascular compromise), a surgeon might consider you a candidate for a decompression and fusion surgery. The vascular disease you have complicates the matter as spine surgery in the face of vascular disease has more potential risks.
None-the-less, I think it might be time to consult a spine surgeon for a surgical opinion.
Dr. Corenman
PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.in reply to: An email question about Chronic Back Pain #4672If you would convert both images to ISO and send both formats, that might yield the best viewing results.
Sorry about mixing right and left regarding your shoulder.
The x-ray images taken when standing in three different positions is encouraging. Make sure those images are included.
Call my office at (970) 476-1100 (USA) and talk to either of my nurses- Diana or Sarah for mailing directions.
Dr. Corenman
PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.in reply to: An email question about Chronic Back Pain #4670By your symptoms of right back, buttocks and leg pain that becomes worse with prolonged standing and an “instability pain” in your back (a popping noise with debilitating pain), you could have several specific problems. More likely, you have lateral recess or foraminal stenosis (see web site for description). You may even have facet dysfunction or a degenerative spondylolysthesis. Standing x-rays including flexion and extension x-rays and an MRI may help diagnose the pathology.
Thoracic pain can sometime be difficult to diagnose but again, x-rays and an MRI can be quite helpful.
Inability to raise your right arm could be from a rotator cuff tear (do web search for this), an injury of the C5 nerve (originates from the C4-5 level in the neck) or from arthritis of the shoulder joint. A good examination can reveal the origin of this problem along with x-rays and of course an MRI.
Most fractures leave a bone deformity that can be seen on x-ray or occasionally a CT scan.
I can’t promise anything but I would be happy to look at your images for you.
If you wouldn’t mind- I would like to have your permission to make your letter anonymous so that I can put it in the forum as the forum is designed for patient education and every little piece makes a good teaching point.
Thank you
Dr. Corenman
PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.in reply to: Neck Pain for over 3 months #4668I cannot tell by the images if anything is amiss with the nerve roots.
Dr. Corenman
PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.in reply to: pain after spinal stenosis op. #4666Good Luck! Please let me know how you do with the outcome of the surgery.
Dr. Corenman
PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books. -
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