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  • emmyloo1
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    MRI results
    L3-4 Minimuak annular budge min. Flattens ventral thecal sac. No stenosis.
    Moderate-severe bilateral facet arthropaty. Synovial cyst 7 mm arising from medial aspect L fact joint. This narrows L lateral recess and exerts mass effect on descending L4 nerve root, displaces descending L5 nerve root medially. MIn. Bilateral neural foraminal narrowing,
    L4-5 mild broad based bulge with associated posture annular fissure. Mild asymmetric narrowing of R lateral recess with abdutment of the defending R L-5 nerve root.
    Sacroiliac joints unremarkable.

    New onset of back pain with sciatic symptoms beginning in January. Saw Chiropractor, worked on SI, 9 treatments, next acupuncture Txx4, new chiropractor x 11 all have not really helped. (In AZ at time now returned to WI)Pain is shooting down left leg, progressively worse. Had hiked 3.5 miles in Jan/Feb. now cannot walk more than 100ft. Walk 3-4 steps stabbing pain and barely walk on left leg. Orthopedic MD visit May got MRI and wanted to do facet injection. Felt that maybe cyst is cause of pain. Will see neurosurgeon in 2 weeks. Only positon with out pain is laying flat on back. Reclining in chair constant shoot pain L leg. Pain when standing and become fatiqued with this activity. Per home test I cannot do toe lifts and certainly not knee bends. Unable to bend or even reach with out pain.Had been sensitive to warm water such as wire pool or shower. Ice and heat really do not help. No over the counter meds do not work. It has now been 6 months and want to know my options.

    Thanks

    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    You have a typical ganglion or synovial cyst originating from the degenerative facet at L3-4 and compressing the L4 nerve root on the left. Your symptoms fit that diagnosis. Pain referring to the sacroiliac joint and then down the leg is typical of this disorder. Based upon your failed treatment and current impairment, you most likely need surgery. The question is, do you have a degenerative spondylolisthesis and do you have instability? Both of these disorders can be found on the website.

    What is necessary is a series of X-rays, standing lumbar with flexion and extension. Based upon the radiologists report “Moderate-severe bilateral facet arthropathy”, you might have both. If so, the facet cyst can be removed without a fusion but the chance of needing a fusion is high after the removal, especially if there is instability present. There is a 10% chance of facet cyst recurrence if you do not have a fusion.

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
    emmyloo1
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    Thank you Dr.Corenman for your prompt response. I will be having those X-rays prior to meeting the neurosurgeon. Your response has also prepared me for potential fusion surgery. I look forward to my appointment and decide on my treatment options. I would like to return to hiking and such, concerned about long recovery post fusion if not minimally invasive, but would not want to risk future surgery if only cyst was addressed.
    Thanks!

    Donald Corenman, MD, DC
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    Your statement “I would like to return to hiking and such, concerned about long recovery post fusion if not minimally invasive” makes no sense. The completion of fusion to allow you to enjoin in normal activities has nothing to do with “minimally invasive” surgery. “Minimally invasive” is a sales line like “better and brighter” that will not make the fusion “heal faster”. You certainly might need fusion surgery and the flexion extension X-rays will be helpful in making that determination.

    Dr. Corenman

    PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
     
    Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.
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