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Dr. Corenman,
I would like you to take a look at this image if you will please…this is the image of the pars fracture at L5 after surgery.
I would like your expert view on this. I am compiling a list of surgeons with experience in this type of procedure, to repair the pars interarticularis. I noticed you said lamimectomy, which i would like to avoid completely. Is that a bone spur up against my L5 nerve root on my left side? If so, can the bone spur be removed without having to cut out the pars defect? I assure you, the localized pain on my left side is very real. If a direct pars repair can be done, wouldn’t the anterior fusion only aid in the healing and fusing of the pars defect by limiting it’s motion? Do you have experience with Buck’s technique for pars defects?
Anyways, could you look at the image and tell me if that is a bone spur, or what method of treatment surgically you would do to repair this problem? Remember, this is a post-surgical MRI, so all work i had pror to, has been already done for degenerative disc disease, so i am no longer a contraindication to a fracture repair..
Thanks doctor
Dr. Corenman,
I can’t seem to edit my post with the other image, so i will include it here…this a series of slice views between my L4-L5 ADR and L5-S1 fusion:
The slices are found in the link, so you can get an overall picture of what’s going on between L4-L5 and L5-S1
Dr. Corenman,
Also, here is a link to the CT Scan about 2 months before surgery, showing the fractured site, it links just to the slices across that level.
I am confused. You note the prior surgeries are an L4-5 ADR (artificial disc replacement) and an L5-S1 fusion. You then note you have left sided pain but don’t note the location (lower back, off to one side, sacroiliac, buttocks, leg) to quality of pain (standing, sitting, loading, flexion vs. extension).
If you had a fusion of L5-S1 and it is solid, this unilateral pars fracture should not be a pain generator if it is mechanical pain. If the pain is radicular in nature (see website) due to lateral recess stenosis and you have a solid fusion, all you would need is a lateral recess decompression.
If your fusion is not solid and you have that left sided pars fracture, this could be your pain generator. Do you know through a CT scan that your fusion is solid?
I had to remove your image sources as this is an anonymous site and you have identifying marks on your images.
Dr. Corenman
PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS FORUM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION ON SPINE ANATOMY, CONDITIONS AND TREATMENTS. TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS, YOU MUST VISIT A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL IN PERSON.
Donald Corenman, MD, DC is a highly-regarded spine surgeon, considered an expert in the area of neck and back pain. Trained as both a Medical Doctor and Doctor of Chiropractic, Dr. Corenman earned academic appointments as Clinical Assistant Professor and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, and his research on spine surgery and rehabilitation has resulted in the publication of multiple peer-reviewed articles and two books.OK, thanks for removing them. My pain generally is localized to the left side lower back. It is there all the time, it has been there noticeably for about 3 years. Did you take a look at the links at all or just remove them? Sometimes i get it in my leg depending on how much i move. Obviously, doing more of anything makes it worse. Sometimes the muscle bulges in that area, sometimes aches alot, depends.
Before my surgery, i couldn’t walk or run on this left leg. After surgery, it’s gotten better, but still get symptoms occasionally, depending on how i move. It’ hard to explain, all i know is, the issue stems from an area no more than 2 inches by inches on my left lower back.
Right after the surgery, i knew something was wrong. To the left of my lower back, My pain levels were extreme in that area. with terribly painful sciatica all the way done to my left foot. My right lower back had none of that going on. Since then, it’s been chronic pain there and won’t go away.
You think the distraction caused the pars defect to open back up? Here are a couple CT scans of the pars defect taken 2 months before surgery:
Dr. Coreman..does it look like that the L5 nerve root on the left is being trapped by the pars defect? And that could explain my left-sided symptoms? If i have had this fracture most of my life, couldn’t it be arthritic, since it’s essentially a joint? Why do you believe a pars defect repair is not necessary? You have stated that the anterior approach is not your first choice for this, and posterior support would be better? By decompression, you mean a laminectomy correct? Why cut anything out, if it can repaired give additional support?
I have not done an updated CT scan yet to check the fusion site for a solid fusion. But i am not convinced the fusion even, if solid, will take care of this. It’s been a year and 3 months, and it should have formed a strong fusion by now…but i guarantee the work done on my back didn’t cause the amount of sciatica into my foot, it was like lightening bolts going into my foot. I have reason to believe that fracture is pinching my nerve root, and it sure looks that way on my old CT scans. The localized pain on my left lower back, what else can it be? I have no DDD, My facets look good on an MRI, i had facet injections done that gave no noticeable relief. I have read that the fractured ends a pars can become innervated, and they need to be cleaned out with a bone graft put in place to achieve a fusion.
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